Mountain Monsters

[Rebelistic]

The other day I was approached by a fella at the diner I frequent that wanted to talk about Bigfoot. Had some things happen years back when he was real active in hunting that he thinks now may have been bigfoot. Then things went bad. He asked what the animals were that bigfoot trained to kill animals for them? I had no idea what in the world he was talking about. Then it came out that he watched a tv show the other night where these fellas trapped the critters and a bigfoot came and kicked in the back of the cage to let them out.

So last night the TV show Mountain Monsters were on and playing the two from this season. I actually found myself getting pissed off. These folks are putting so much BS out there that is nothing more than TV BS. But this fella at the diner thought it was based of fact. Some of the "facts" he learned. 1. Chupacabra is train by bigfoot to kill the animals and drink the blood so bigfoot can have the meat. 2. If you catch a Chupacabra it will be set free by bigfoot so more traps are needed. 3. A harmonica sounds just like a baby bigfoot in distress so it will attract aggressive bigfoot that could end up breaking into your house. At that point my blood pressure was up enough I changed the channel to avoid more "knowledge" about bigfoot.

Now I am not a big fan of Finding Bigfoot. I think the producers there stretch things enough, but this total spewing of BS that this Mountain Monsters is putting out there is ridiculous! I think the Finding Bigfoot show did put bigfoot out there so folks were more willing to talk about it and because of it I have gotten a couple investigations so overall I think it was a good thing. But now with everyone trying to make money on bigfoot it is making it look more and more insane. I wish the shows would at least try to show some realism and at least not fill the airways with phony absurd crap that really detracts from serious researchers being taken seriously.

I know last year some of these Mountain Monster folks were speakers at some bigfoot conferences across the country. And if this is the thanks they are showing the bigfoot community for doing that is in my opinion a HUGE slap in the face. End of Rant!

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Author: Nightwind [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:36 pm ]
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Just read Rebels post twice, He said it all, second reading is for me. I can't let my pressure get that high. These Show's need rated Across the screen first and fore most with ( B. S. Productions)

Author: therealsuperdave [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:03 pm ]
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Most of TV is so boring, I'll even watch and enjoy garbage like this. I criticize them while watching and still watch. i'm so ashamed to admit it, but my name's super Dave and I have a junk TV habit.

Author: christy [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:38 pm ]
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Here is a thought, worth pondering. I have long thought the TV show Finding Bigfoot was, to say the least, kinda 'Out there' on realism. The members here would repeatedly tell me that it was a TV show, made for entertainment only. Take it with a grain of salt, they would say. I think we, as a professional organization could look at that show and say, its not real. Now, that this posting exposed the latest show to throw truth to the wind, we could collectively shake our heads, Or, begin talking about doing something about this, in a constructive way. Hence, what about a group of MABRC people interested in giving the public the truth putting forth a concept for a new TV show, that shows the reality of bigfoot research and field investigative techniques. I am sure the leadership here at the MABRC would view the idea as a positive step in the right direction and it could also serve as a way to recognize our members and their talents in the bigfoot research field. Plus, any income derived from this production could go back into the organization, which would make us a stronger body.
We have the talent, experience and ability to make this idea a viable endeavor, if done right. I for one, would love to see a dialog on this. Or, maybe if this idea is too 'Out There', maybe a discussion on a new show "Bigfoot, Green Beret Trainer" (insert smile here)

Author: christy [ Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:49 pm ]
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Part II for new TV show idea; I think the only think about the idea expressed above would be finding a producer and production company to take on the project. The manpower (on-camera talent, off camera support personnel and technical consultants) could all come from MABRC members, or members of other organizations.

Author: TC85 [ Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:00 am ]
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I am glad this came up because I have bypassed this show in the past because the guy's in the one I did watch or a portion of it...they made so much noise chasing it around and communicating plus chasing it on a side by side and cutting the creature off at one point that I just pass it by when I see it. However, I did however watch a portion Saturday night and I saw that they had trapped something that then I saw the trap....it was about the size of a one car garage from the 50' or 60 's that wasn't camouflaged and they managed to run the chucacabras into the garage in the open forest with 1300 lbs of hillbilly just a hooting and a hollering chasing by side by side until it was trapped. Wow...really....I was thinking this is what is representing the folks out scientifically looking for a sasquatch? I feel like and I'm probably going to upset a few but remember the one rotten apple fable...we probably have it coming to us not because the good people on here but the toleration of the Rick Dyers, the other loud mouth originally involved in the first Georgia suit thing, who's name eludes me. I know that it wasn't folks on here but overall the toleration by somebody not coming out and saying that this is not what we do. This is not who we are and this guy is lying. Maybe , somebody did but I never heard them. Its right when I got involved and didnt know about all the shysters.
Anyway, I'm rambling on but it's kinda sad so...I will continue to keep my head down and continue my personal quest because I could care less really about the exploitation of Bigfoot as I don't have enough time to care about it as my research, kids and work take up the time I got. It is a bit embarrassing for those people on Destination America though. Bigfoot...if you are reading this I need some help house training my puppy....gimme a shout if you can train him.

Author: therealsuperdave [ Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:01 am ]
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^^^ I like what he said.

Author: tikoo [ Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:19 pm ]
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Won't wood ape 'monsters' just be shot on sight ? I've read a publicly released account of a shooting
in SE Oklahoma near a research camp . "guns at the ready" Is it war ?

Author: Snowman [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:20 pm ]
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tikoo wrote:
Won't wood ape 'monsters' just be shot on sight ? I've read a publicly released account of a shooting
in SE Oklahoma near a research camp . "guns at the ready" Is it war ?

If it's war, I'm gonna need a bigger gun.
" a man gots to know his limitations "

Author: christy [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:04 pm ]
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It would be interesting to see if the producers of Mountain Monsters and Finding Bigfoot are related.

Author: David [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:47 pm ]
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IMHO they are just a side show they have a bad show along with the one who sees Squatch every where, When it came out I was hoping for and why I did but was hoping for a serious research program. But No its like going to a family reunion waste of time IMHO

Author: christy [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:59 pm ]
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You know, theres a commentary that could be made here; The decline of ethical and best practices in television. It is getting to the point where if you want to view a television show, or documentary, you pretty much have to rely on PBS. It shouldn't be that way. A Reality Show, Should Be based on Reality, or real product. Just imagine, if gasoline distributors delivered 'Almost Real' fuel to gas stations ?
I wish there was something could be done to correct people from delivering products on television without regard to the truth, or accuracy.

Author: frogman [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:26 pm ]
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christy wrote:
Just imagine, if gasoline distributors delivered 'Almost Real' fuel to gas stations ?

they do it's called ethanol. sorry christy I just could not help myself. now about mountain monsters. I think it's one of the best comedies on. Unfortunately it is harmful. my boss is an outdoors woman and knows that I hunt as well and am a bigfoot researcher asked me what kind of traps I use and could she come with me to run through the woods hollering and yell and drive it onto the trap. I just looked at her in disbelief. this women has been an hunter all her life and knows I have been as well. I asked if she was joking. she replied with "that's how the mountain guys do it and they get better results than the finding bigfoot people.

Author: David [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:57 pm ]
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Finding BF is a money grab, Mnt Men is as big of a joke. Both hurt us when we ret and get people to talk to us knowing they know or have seen something.

Author: Rebelistic [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:34 am ]
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frogman wrote:

christy wrote:
Just imagine, if gasoline distributors delivered 'Almost Real' fuel to gas stations ?

they do it's called ethanol. sorry christy I just could not help myself. now about mountain monsters. I think it's one of the best comedies on. Unfortunately it is harmful. my boss is an outdoors woman and knows that I hunt as well and am a bigfoot researcher asked me what kind of traps I use and could she come with me to run through the woods hollering and yell and drive it onto the trap. I just looked at her in disbelief. this women has been an hunter all her life and knows I have been as well. I asked if she was joking. she replied with "that's how the mountain guys do it and they get better results than the finding bigfoot people.

Exactly what I have run into. And the way some bigfoot conferences ask these jokers to come and speak makes it even worse. People watch tv and think this crap is real. It makes me wonder about folks... a lot!

Author: christy [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:54 pm ]
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You know, I would rather pay my hard earned money listening to the people here, than alot of what I've seen on TV, just because they are celebraties. The Depth of knowledge of most forum members here far exceeds anything I've seen on television. My only hope is, maybe, one day soon, others will see this too.

Author: frogman [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:46 pm ]
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it might be interesting to see if a network would pick up a show about bigfoot research that is fact based. unfortunately I think that the general public would watch for long. One of the better shows was monsterquest. it ran from 2007-2010. History channel canceled it in the middle of the season.

Author: Rebelistic [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:31 am ]
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christy wrote:
You know, I would rather pay my hard earned money listening to the people here, than alot of what I've seen on TV, just because they are celebraties. The Depth of knowledge of most forum members here far exceeds anything I've seen on television. My only hope is, maybe, one day soon, others will see this too.

You should save some pennies up and join us at the Oklahoma Bigfoot Symposium then. We put it on the first weekend in October. And yes the information there is awesome!

Author: Rebelistic [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:37 am ]
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frogman wrote:
it might be interesting to see if a network would pick up a show about bigfoot research that is fact based. unfortunately I think that the general public would watch for long. One of the better shows was monsterquest. it ran from 2007-2010. History channel canceled it in the middle of the season.

When people are so used to being entertained with the high drama BS that TV has given us over the years, I doubt you would have much of a following. Yes that monsterquest was a great show and did show some good stuff. But for a lot they said it was boring. I guess most folks are interested in fantasy land rather than discovery land. It sure is sad in my opinion. There are tons of amazing things out there for folks to see, but they would rather sit in front of a TV and never see the world.

Author: christy [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:57 pm ]
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I have to chime in here; The comment that people have been fed bad TV for so long, is sadfully true.
BUT, someone, had to pitch the idea to the cable companies for the 'Bad Stuff' and They won, right ?
It can't be all that difficult to pitch to those same producers that you have a ' New and Sparkleing Idea' for a show thats real. Oh, the concept. Real research, Real researchers, Real results. I cannot see this as a failed concept, no matter what type of focus group they pick to rate the show. Who wouldn't love to see the real-stuff. I believe behind every bad thing, there is good. The trick is to find it. I can imagine something special, if the people here had a part in creating it. All they could say is No. But, what if, they said yes. It might be fun to pick an MABRC fantasy Dream Team, who could pull this off. I already have several names in mind from the forums that would be Super-Stars.

Author: tikoo [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:28 pm ]
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Inspired by the different sources I've been investigating I am ready to write
a Bigfoot book . The main characters can be a very rural Arkansas preacher
and the church music soloist (modeled after my ma) . There will be Bigfoot/
Human dialogue .

Would you like something said at the Bigfoot council ? Or if you insist that a
researcher be present just say so , and also and variously how this character
might be portrayed .

Author: christy [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:38 pm ]
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Tikoo, writing a book can be very theraputic. I would recommend your first research the internet and discover what type of writing style you want to use. Then, (and this is the difficult part) list the characters on your work sheet, dramatic, or exciting scenes that you want to include and the locale of your novel. Every book must have a begining, middle and end and you have to establish where you will be in the story at each part. The writing of the individual back-stories for each character may take awhile, along with the research on the location setting in your book. Remember, your target audience may be bigfoot researchers and they will spot any inaccuracies quickly. The phyiscal writing of the book will flow once all your leg work is done. Afterwards, when the manuscript is ready to shop around, you may want to copyright it, before you search for a publisher. Just so you know, the publisher part can be the most frustrating part of your whole endeavor. Enjoy your adventure.

Author: tikoo [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:26 am ]
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Thanks for your reply . Oh , yes , as to the beginning of the story . In
the beginning the preacher gets two knocks on the head , and his wife
will suffice to provide a primal howl . We have to get them out of Little
Rock , onto a missionary journey among some primitives , and settled
eccentricly in the little church in the wildwood .

I make books , physically , as an artist . Illustrating them is also fun .

Author: Nightwind [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:58 am ]
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Tikoo! have a great adventure, I wrote a book on my web unit, Every night was a different adventure. Titled it ( The Light Side of the Moon.) That is where every nights story was told. According to the home page contract All Copy Right was mine. Company Closed, transferred all my internet work, except the book. They claimed the rights. Be careful what you do and how you do it. Will you speak this book in native? will we need it translated? The weather is warming so I am planning on some late nights of listening to see who is speaking in the woods.

Author: tikoo [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:34 pm ]
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Nightwind wrote:
...some late nights of listening to see who is speaking in the woods.


Translating nature tends toward being poetic language . Yes , I may speak a book .

To keep a book safe , I archive several original artist-edition books with libraries . These are
preserved in a special collection , not for circulation .

Author: christy [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:17 pm ]
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You know, you can voice write the book. Its quicker and easier.

Author: tikoo [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:24 am ]
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I think I'll interpret that suggestion - it brings to mind a short-form book , such as 40 pages . This
would take about an hour to read aloud to an audience . Or a story-teller could mesmerize and wow ,
jamming on its theme at a camp-out .

Isn't this better than a tv show ? Coherently .

Author: wolfcub44 [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:48 pm ]
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Finding Bigfoot had interesting moments at least like when Matt Moneymaker ran after what he thought was a bigfoot and got jumpon for it, like some of the thermal images, when that skeptic woman got freaked, like the couple who had one try and open the door to their house and left a smudge mark, the use of drones, eyeshine and vocalization moments, and the community meetings and witnesses.


Mountain Monsters is pure entertainment and a joke, they arelight/camera rigs too wild, too loud, too out of shape and old to run all over like that except the old marine, he has WAY too much energy LMAO....but yeah it's pure entertainment. plus with the side by side, all the lights and howling, building traps on site, every creature in the country would know they are there Looong before they ever go close....

Better shows were Monsterquest, Destination truth, Terror in the woods, and some of the National Geographic 'channel' shows .

My biggest complaint with Finding Bigfoot is they take a entire production cast out on site and they always wear those light and camera rigs that would get tanglefaak3d on everything in the woods, plus they howl WAY too much for it to be natural for Bigfoot. and The Bigfoot would almost ALWAYS know it wasn't another Bigfoot making the knocks and calls.

THEN you have all their scent and body odor floating all over, plus they talk too dam much and make a ton of noise... and Matt Moneymaker acts
like a know-it-all smug jerk.... and that woman acts like too much a skeptic.....show just rubs me the wrong way.

I watch it for my love of Bigfoot, but it's almost too annoying. Kinda like Josh Gates on Destination Truth...but he does get real serious about his searching underneath all the joking around.